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Re: defining an LDAP schema for address books and PIMs

michael@stroeder.com wrote:
Jochen Laser wrote:

I totally agree with Dieter in that there is need for better standardization here. You have hit on an important issue.
You should consider taking over this discussion to the general LDAP List, ldap@umich.edu.


But I'd recommend to post schema proposals as personal I-D on the ietf-ldapext list. Although this WG has be closed this mailing is still the most appropriate forum. I'd be willing to co-author such a draft.

I consider all the mozillaPerson, evolutionPerson, <whatever app>Person schema to be just quick hacks. People who defined these schema definitions don't bother with researching existing person schema definitions which leads to conflicting use of e.g. attribute type names. Unfortunately most of the "schema designers" are somewhat resistent to learn about LDAP *before* defining such a schema. And afterwards they refuse to fix flaws in favour of being backward-compatible to their own mess. (Edward seems to be a notable exception.)

Ciao, Michael.

I'm really pleased to hear that there's interest in this working group. LDAP is becoming the platform of choice for implementing address book functionality in a variety of groupware solutions. I think this initiative should help LDAP become even more useful than it already is. Imagine the glee of an admin who implements a groupware solution and discovers that ALL the attributes "just work" despite the fact that the client and server came from two separate projects!

I'm currently working through the logistics of setting up this working group. If anyone has thoughts on how best to do this, I would love to hear them. There's already quite a few people interested in participating from a number of different projects/communities.

I think the first step is to create a mailing list and get the right people talking. If you're interested in participating, please send me an e-mail and I'll add you to the list (edwardbuck at netscape dot net). Anyone with experience writing ldap schemas or with good knowledge of current schemas (inetorgperson, core, etc) is encouraged to participate. If we want, we can setup a mailing list at openoffice.org for this purpose. Or, if people prefer a more neutral gathering place, I'm sure I can hobble something together.