Re: Misuse of the term "association" in [Protocol]

["Kurt D. Zeilenga" <Kurt@OpenLDAP.org>]

At 09:19 AM 10/5/2004, Hallvard B Furuseth wrote:
>Kurt D. Zeilenga writes:
>>At 07:45 AM 10/5/2004, Hallvard B Furuseth wrote:
>>>Kurt D. Zeilenga writes:
>>>
>>>>The 4.6 text:
>>>>>   If the association changes or the connection fails,  
>>>>>   whether the modification occurred or not is indeterminate.
>>>>should read:
>>>>>   If the LDAP exchange is terminated, or the Modify operation
>>>>>   is abandoned due to subsequent operation which requires all
>>>>>   outstanding operations to be abandoned (e.g., the Bind
>>>>>   operation), whether the modification completed successfully
>>>>>   or not is indeterminate.
>>>
>>>Why the "due to..." part - doesn't the same apply to an operation
>>>abandoned by the abandon operation?
>> 
>> Yes, but it doesn't necessarily apply to the operations
>> otherwise abandoned (for instance, by the cancel operation).
>> The original sentence was intended only to cover two cases,
>> re-bind and connection termination.  The other case (abandon
>> operation) is separately handled.  The new text does the same.
>
>Do we need this sentence at all?  It is mentioned under Abandon,
>Operation and LDAP Exchange Relationship etc, and it is not mentioned
>in the sections for the other update operations.

I have no problem with removing this sentence.

>The same goes for the preceding sentence:
>
>   Due to the requirement 
>   for atomicity in applying the list of modifications in the Modify 
>   Request, the client may expect that no modifications of the DIT have 
>   been performed if the Modify Response received indicates any sort of 
>   error, and that all requested modifications have been performed if 
>   the Modify Response indicates successful completion of the Modify 
>   Operation.
>
>Though it's useful to keep a reminder that the operation is atomic and
>will either fail or complete successfully, since its LDAPMessage "looks
>like" a series of modifications.

A modify request expresses a sequence of modifications which
are be applied atomically.  I think reminding developers of
this is important.