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Re: OT: Security management/distribution in "The Cloud" (Was: Dogtag CA with OpenLDAP?)

On 03/28/2017 06:35 AM, Turbo Fredriksson wrote:
On 28 Mar 2017, at 11:22, Howard Chu <hyc@symas.com> wrote:

We had a module for OpenLDAP 2.0, way back when. It hasn't been maintained in years.
Ok, I see :(. What did that do exactly? Name?

Sorry for the OT (although it’s _slightly_ relevant to OpenLDAP I guess).

But how do people handle secrets (key/value, certificates etc) in a cloud
environment? With bare metal, you usually don’t spinup/down machines
that often, so distributing stuff like that is “easy”. But with the cloud and
“resources are cattle, not pets”, how to do that there!?

This have been racking my brain (and several of my friends and colleagues)
for months now!

I’m using OpenLDAP and MIT Kerberos V for users and passwords, but
I’m not sure how I could (if I should) utilise that to keep “secrets”.

I’ve looked at Hashicorp Vault, but that’s extremely immature and not any
where near ready a “production” environment (not to mention that it lacks
very important functions etc).

Dogtag is apparently good enough (although huge - might not need all that
functionality), but maintaining an additional LDAP/KerberosV setup is seriously

But what else is there?

EJBCA (Enterprise Java Beans Certificate Authority), but it is just as "heavy" as DogTag. Personally, the java bloat is what turns me off to it. not much else is available as open source.