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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, Kurt D. Zeilenga wrote:
At 06:20 AM 9/21/2004, Christopher Hicks wrote:
I'm just asking to be allowed to have this discussion without people who don't know the answer choosing to supress conversation.
As I noted when I took the action, the discussion of your
Outlook question was suppressed on this list (but obviously
not on other lists where that topic would be more
appropriate discussed) as it was deemed off-topic.
As list administrator, I am charged by the OpenLDAP Project with making
that determination as well as taking appropriate steps to keep this list
There is sadly contention over the appropriateness in this case.
I note that I have suppressed the meta-discussion
regarding whether my actions were appropriate in this
case, or whether the general list management practices
or list charter should be changed. Posts in this area
I'm hoping you meant "not" in the first sentence. Whether you intended to
filter the meta-discussion or not, you shut down the thread that contained
that meta-discussion. That I feel was an act of supression that is
inappropriate and tasteless, not to mention morally reprehensible. I've
been on numerous high volume mailing lists with varying degrees of
cluefulness and ontopicness. I've easily been on over a hundred mailing
lists at various points in time over the last fifteen years. Never in
that time have I seen a list admin cut off a topic so quickly or
ruthlessly. Others have called your actions drastic. I've used stronger
words. But noone is expecting you to be perfect, but this is a case where
you chose poorly. Your acceptance of that is naturally not required.
However, I do remind you and others that proper Netiquette is to
maintained. It is expected that everyone will avoid use of inflammatory
I'm sorry that some of the terms I've used have meanings and flavors
beyond those that are strictly relevant to this conversation. If I have
hurt anyones feelings by doing so I am truly sorry.
There are two ways of constructing a software design. One way is to make
it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies. And the other way
is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies.
-- C.A.R. Hoare