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Dynamic syntax support vs. slapo-constraint vs. schema declaration vs. whatever
- To: Howard Chu <firstname.lastname@example.org>
- Subject: Dynamic syntax support vs. slapo-constraint vs. schema declaration vs. whatever
- From: Michael Ströder <email@example.com>
- Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:46:45 +0100
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Howard Chu wrote:
> On the whole it doesn't seem like new syntaxes pop up in LDAP specs very
> often. Some may say this is because they're not really needed. I believe
> they've been sorely needed, and people have just avoided them because
> they required too much work to properly support in existing
> implementations. We can fix that.
This topic is somehwat interesting. I've banged my head against the wall
several times when implementing schema support in web2ldap. The big
question was where to draw the line between handling syntaxes and
special attribute types, especially when having to override incorrect
schema information retrieved from the server.
I have no strong opinion just some thoughts regarding how to dynamically
make use of it at the client side:
Something like (an improved) slapo-constraint will cover most cases for
which one might also consider a syntax, e.g. limited set of option
values for implementing the typical select lists. Or a certain string
AFAIK slapo-constraint shipped in RE24 only supports regex checking
defined in slapd.conf.
Dynamic option value/description lists could be easily defined by
defining an LDAP URL which searches the option values. IIRC someone is
already working in this direction to improve slapo-constraint. (A base
class for this is in web2ldap's plugin API now). But currently the
client cannot query the constraints and adjust the UI accordingly in a
vendor independent way. The client could read cn=config if back-config
is deployed though.
A separate syntaxes is only needed if there's a strong need for distinct
matching rules or normalization etc. Also a client has to implement the
syntax. IMO this is the reason for spec authors to avoid syntaxes.
So I'm thinking about whether it would be worth to extend the subschema
declaration of attribute types to define additional constraints. A
client could interpret this and act accordingly. Well, a long way to go
through standardization off course...