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Re: (ITS#5845) Distribution List support for OpenLDAP schema
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Thanks Andrew for the reply.=0A=0A=0AQMail schema didn't seem to work for a=
distribution list. I am looking for other options as well.=0A=0AI agree th=
at this is a mail system issue. I am using Exim/Dovecot for mails. I though=
t it was the LDAP which gets the group mail id from the address book for th=
e Mail Client. Eg. In Outlook+AD+Exchange we have the CTRL+K option which g=
ets the group id that points to more than one mailing address. I think ther=
e is a basic understanding between Exchange and AD that does the trick.=0A=
=0AWith Regards=0ABejoy=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom:=
Andrew Findlay <andrew.findlay@skills-1st.co.uk>=0ATo: bejnet@yahoo.com=0A=
Cc: openldap-its@openldap.org=0ASent: Wednesday, 3 December, 2008 2:02:05 P=
M=0ASubject: Re: (ITS#5845) Distribution List support for OpenLDAP schema=
=0A=0AOn Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 05:02:52AM +0000, bejnet@yahoo.com wrote:=0A=
=0A> I want to create distribution list in OpenLDAP. Meaning - If I have a =
group=0A> called admins@ldap.com and there are two members - bejoy@ldap.com=
and=0A> bejnet@ldap.com; and mail is sent to admins@ldap.com =3D both thes=
e members must=0A> get the email. Exchange has this feature. This mail id s=
hould have a display=0A> name feature as well - that would show up on searc=
h of address books.=0A> =0A> At present the work around is using qmail's sc=
hema for this distribution list. I=0A> believe inetOrgPerson schema could h=
ave a group version too - which would need a=0A> compulsory attribute calle=
d members which must have atleast one member mentioned=0A> under it.=0A=0AI=
think you have just described groupOfNames. I do not like groupOfNames=0A*=
because* it makes the member attribute mandatory, which makes management=0A=
complicated.=0A=0AAnyway, I cannot see this as a defect in OpenLDAP. LDAP s=
chema is=0Aextensible: if you want something that is not in the standard se=
t=0Ayou can add it locally. You say that you have used qmail's schema:=0Ais=
there anything wrong with that?=0A=0AMost LDAP-capable mail systems can be=
persuaded to use groups as=0Amailing lists, but that is a mail system issu=
e not an OpenLDAP one.=0AIt could be argued that simple groups are not rich=
enough to use=0Afor list expansion (no way to keep track of per-member lis=
t=0Apreferences etc) but if we are going to talk about defining an=0Aimprov=
ed group this is the wrong place to do it: maybe IETF's=0Aldapext list woul=
d be better.=0A=0AAndrew=0A-- =0A------------------------------------------=
-----------------------------=0A| From Andrew Findlay, Skil=
ls 1st Ltd |=0A| Consultant in large-scale systems, network=
s, and directory services |=0A| http://www.skills-1st.co.uk/ =
+44 1628 782565 |=0A-----------------------------------------------=
------------------------=0A=0A=0A=0A From Chandigarh to Chennai - find=
friends all over India. Go to http://in.promos.yahoo.com/groups/citygroups=
/
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ad><body><div style=3D"font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;fon=
t-size:12pt"><div>Thanks Andrew for the reply.<br></div><div style=3D"font-=
family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br>QMail s=
chema didn't seem to work for a distribution list. I am looking for other o=
ptions as well.<br><br>I agree that this is a mail system issue. I am using=
Exim/Dovecot for mails. I thought it was the LDAP which gets the group mai=
l id from the address book for the Mail Client. <span style=3D"font-weight:=
bold;">Eg.</span> In Outlook+AD+Exchange we have the CTRL+K option which g=
ets the group id that points to more than one mailing address. I think ther=
e is a basic understanding between Exchange and AD that does the trick.<br>=
<br>With Regards<br>Bejoy<br><br><div style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica=
,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Tahoma"><hr
size=3D"1"><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Andrew F=
indlay <andrew.findlay@skills-1st.co.uk><br><b><span style=3D"font-we=
ight: bold;">To:</span></b> bejnet@yahoo.com<br><b><span style=3D"font-weig=
ht: bold;">Cc:</span></b> openldap-its@openldap.org<br><b><span style=3D"fo=
nt-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, 3 December, 2008 2:02:05 PM<b=
r><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: (ITS#5845) =
Distribution List support for OpenLDAP schema<br></font><br>On Wed, Dec 03,=
2008 at 05:02:52AM +0000, <a ymailto=3D"mailto:bejnet@yahoo.com"; href=3D"m=
ailto:bejnet@yahoo.com">bejnet@yahoo.com</a> wrote:<br><br>> I want to c=
reate distribution list in OpenLDAP. Meaning - If I have a group<br>> ca=
lled <a ymailto=3D"mailto:admins@ldap.com"; href=3D"mailto:admins@ldap.com";>=
admins@ldap.com</a> and there are two members - <a ymailto=3D"mailto:bejoy@=
ldap.com" href=3D"mailto:bejoy@ldap.com";>bejoy@ldap.com</a> and<br>> <a
ymailto=3D"mailto:bejnet@ldap.com"; href=3D"mailto:bejnet@ldap.com";>bejnet@=
ldap.com</a>; and mail is sent to <a ymailto=3D"mailto:admins@ldap.com"; hre=
f=3D"mailto:admins@ldap.com";>admins@ldap.com</a> =3D both these members mus=
t<br>> get the email. Exchange has this feature. This mail id should hav=
e a display<br>> name feature as well - that would show up on search of =
address books.<br>> <br>> At present the work around is using qmail's=
schema for this distribution list. I<br>> believe inetOrgPerson schema =
could have a group version too - which would need a<br>> compulsory attr=
ibute called members which must have atleast one member mentioned<br>> u=
nder it.<br><br>I think you have just described groupOfNames. I do not like=
groupOfNames<br>*because* it makes the member attribute mandatory, which m=
akes management<br>complicated.<br><br>Anyway, I cannot see this as a defec=
t in OpenLDAP. LDAP schema is<br>extensible: if you want something that is =
not
in the standard set<br>you can add it locally. You say that you have used =
qmail's schema:<br>is there anything wrong with that?<br><br>Most LDAP-capa=
ble mail systems can be persuaded to use groups as<br>mailing lists, but th=
at is a mail system issue not an OpenLDAP one.<br>It could be argued that s=
imple groups are not rich enough to use<br>for list expansion (no way to ke=
ep track of per-member list<br>preferences etc) but if we are going to talk=
about defining an<br>improved group this is the wrong place to do it: mayb=
e IETF's<br>ldapext list would be better.<br><br>Andrew<br>-- <br>---------=
--------------------------------------------------------------<br>| &=
nbsp; From Andrew Findlay, Skill=
s 1st Ltd |<br>| Co=
nsultant in large-scale systems, networks, and directory services |<br>|&nb=
sp; <a href=3D"http://www.skills-1st.co.uk/";
target=3D"_blank">http://www.skills-1st.co.uk/</a> &nb=
sp; +44 1628 782565 |<br>--------=
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